I’m considering buying a new car. Becka and I have gotten by with one car for ten years, but now with us both working and both jobs too far away to walk to and no good public transit, we’re going to need a second car.
We test drive some Volkswagons this afternoon. I thought I remembered reading that they offered a special 1.2% financing rate. This is a classic sales technique : confuse the consumer. So what, exactly, is 1.2% financing worth?
Loans work over a period of time, at the end of which the principle owed is zero. The amount of the payment owed is a function of the initial value of the loan and the interest rate. If the interest rate is zero, then the payment is simply the initial value divided by the number of payments.
What is interesting about that is that the payment on a loan is a function of two inputs : Initial value and interest rate. Now I do not believe that the car dealer has access to a pool of money at a lower interest rate than everyone else. When they sell you a car, they secretly “contribute” to your loan to make the interest rate lower. They in effect sell you the car for less than you agreed upon — but don’t ever tell you this.
Why should we care? Well, for one thing, you’re paying more taxes than you need to. But the reason I really care is that we might be able to buy our car with either separate financing (through an independent lender) or with cash. In that situation, you really want to know what the present value of the loan at the discounted interest rate is really worth.
This is one situation where Excel is useful. First I studied how interest rate affects payments. For typical car interest rates (between zero and 6 percent), the payment seems to correlate more or less linearly with the interest rate. That’s nice because it means I can make an assumption that simplifies my next calculation. Which is:
=PV((2+E$28)/1200,72,PMT(2/1200,72,$D29))
Where cell E$28 contains the “MSRP”, or price you negotiated. And cell $D29 contains the difference in interest rate between what the car dealer is offering and what current interest rates really are, as quoted by your bank or the internet. Basically I use to financial functions to find out what the present value of a loan with such and such payments over six years is worth today at the real interest rate.
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Table 1. How much
money the dealer is getting from the financing dept |
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Difference between the Car lot interest rate and
the bank’s interest rate |
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0 |
0.5 |
1 |
1.5 |
2 |
2.5 |
3 |
3.5 |
4 |
4.5 |
5 |
5.5 |
6 |
6.5 |
7 |
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18000 |
18000 |
17735 |
17475 |
17220 |
16971 |
16726 |
16486 |
16251 |
16021 |
15795 |
15573 |
15356 |
15143 |
14934 |
14730 |
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18250 |
18250 |
17981 |
17718 |
17459 |
17206 |
16958 |
16715 |
16477 |
16243 |
16014 |
15790 |
15569 |
15353 |
15142 |
14934 |
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18500 |
18500 |
18227 |
17960 |
17699 |
17442 |
17191 |
16944 |
16702 |
16466 |
16233 |
16006 |
15783 |
15564 |
15349 |
15139 |
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18750 |
18750 |
18474 |
18203 |
17938 |
17678 |
17423 |
17173 |
16928 |
16688 |
16453 |
16222 |
15996 |
15774 |
15557 |
15343 |
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19000 |
19000 |
18720 |
18446 |
18177 |
17913 |
17655 |
17402 |
17154 |
16911 |
16672 |
16438 |
16209 |
15984 |
15764 |
15548 |
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19250 |
19250 |
18966 |
18688 |
18416 |
18149 |
17887 |
17631 |
17380 |
17133 |
16892 |
16655 |
16422 |
16195 |
15971 |
15752 |
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19500 |
19500 |
19213 |
18931 |
18655 |
18385 |
18120 |
17860 |
17605 |
17356 |
17111 |
16871 |
16636 |
16405 |
16179 |
15957 |
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19750 |
19750 |
19459 |
19174 |
18894 |
18621 |
18352 |
18089 |
17831 |
17578 |
17330 |
17087 |
16849 |
16615 |
16386 |
16162 |
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20000 |
20000 |
19705 |
19417 |
19134 |
18856 |
18584 |
18318 |
18057 |
17801 |
17550 |
17304 |
17062 |
16826 |
16594 |
16366 |
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20250 |
20250 |
19952 |
19659 |
19373 |
19092 |
18817 |
18547 |
18282 |
18023 |
17769 |
17520 |
17276 |
17036 |
16801 |
16571 |
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20500 |
20500 |
20198 |
19902 |
19612 |
19328 |
19049 |
18776 |
18508 |
18246 |
17988 |
17736 |
17489 |
17246 |
17009 |
16775 |
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20750 |
20750 |
20444 |
20145 |
19851 |
19563 |
19281 |
19005 |
18734 |
18468 |
18208 |
17952 |
17702 |
17457 |
17216 |
16980 |
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21000 |
21000 |
20691 |
20387 |
20090 |
19799 |
19514 |
19234 |
18960 |
18691 |
18427 |
18169 |
17915 |
17667 |
17423 |
17184 |
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21250 |
21250 |
20937 |
20630 |
20329 |
20035 |
19746 |
19463 |
19185 |
18913 |
18647 |
18385 |
18129 |
17877 |
17631 |
17389 |
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21500 |
21500 |
21183 |
20873 |
20569 |
20270 |
19978 |
19692 |
19411 |
19136 |
18866 |
18601 |
18342 |
18088 |
17838 |
17594 |
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21750 |
21750 |
21430 |
21116 |
20808 |
20506 |
20211 |
19921 |
19637 |
19358 |
19085 |
18818 |
18555 |
18298 |
18046 |
17798 |
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22000 |
22000 |
21676 |
21358 |
21047 |
20742 |
20443 |
20150 |
19862 |
19581 |
19305 |
19034 |
18769 |
18508 |
18253 |
18003 |
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22250 |
22250 |
21922 |
21601 |
21286 |
20978 |
20675 |
20379 |
20088 |
19803 |
19524 |
19250 |
18982 |
18719 |
18460 |
18207 |
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22500 |
22500 |
22168 |
21844 |
21525 |
21213 |
20907 |
20608 |
20314 |
20026 |
19743 |
19467 |
19195 |
18929 |
18668 |
18412 |
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22750 |
22750 |
22415 |
22086 |
21764 |
21449 |
21140 |
20837 |
20540 |
20248 |
19963 |
19683 |
19408 |
19139 |
18875 |
18617 |
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23000 |
23000 |
22661 |
22329 |
22004 |
21685 |
21372 |
21066 |
20765 |
20471 |
20182 |
19899 |
19622 |
19350 |
19083 |
18821 |
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23250 |
23250 |
22907 |
22572 |
22243 |
21920 |
21604 |
21295 |
20991 |
20693 |
20401 |
20115 |
19835 |
19560 |
19290 |
19026 |
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23500 |
23500 |
23154 |
22814 |
22482 |
22156 |
21837 |
21524 |
21217 |
20916 |
20621 |
20332 |
20048 |
19770 |
19498 |
19230 |
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23750 |
23750 |
23400 |
23057 |
22721 |
22392 |
22069 |
21753 |
21442 |
21138 |
20840 |
20548 |
20261 |
19981 |
19705 |
19435 |
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24000 |
24000 |
23646 |
23300 |
22960 |
22627 |
22301 |
21982 |
21668 |
21361 |
21060 |
20764 |
20475 |
20191 |
19912 |
19639 |
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24250 |
24250 |
23893 |
23543 |
23199 |
22863 |
22534 |
22210 |
21894 |
21583 |
21279 |
20981 |
20688 |
20401 |
20120 |
19844 |
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24500 |
24500 |
24139 |
23785 |
23439 |
23099 |
22766 |
22439 |
22119 |
21806 |
21498 |
21197 |
20901 |
20611 |
20327 |
20049 |
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24750 |
24750 |
24385 |
24028 |
23678 |
23335 |
22998 |
22668 |
22345 |
22028 |
21718 |
21413 |
21115 |
20822 |
20535 |
20253 |
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25000 |
25000 |
24632 |
24271 |
23917 |
23570 |
23230 |
22897 |
22571 |
22251 |
21937 |
21629 |
21328 |
21032 |
20742 |
20458 |
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25250 |
25250 |
24878 |
24513 |
24156 |
23806 |
23463 |
23126 |
22797 |
22473 |
22156 |
21846 |
21541 |
21242 |
20950 |
20662 |
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25500 |
25500 |
25124 |
24756 |
24395 |
24042 |
23695 |
23355 |
23022 |
22696 |
22376 |
22062 |
21754 |
21453 |
21157 |
20867 |
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25750 |
25750 |
25371 |
24999 |
24634 |
24277 |
23927 |
23584 |
23248 |
22918 |
22595 |
22278 |
21968 |
21663 |
21364 |
21071 |
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26000 |
26000 |
25617 |
25242 |
24874 |
24513 |
24160 |
23813 |
23474 |
23141 |
22815 |
22495 |
22181 |
21873 |
21572 |
21276 |
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26250 |
26250 |
25863 |
25484 |
25113 |
24749 |
24392 |
24042 |
23699 |
23363 |
23034 |
22711 |
22394 |
22084 |
21779 |
21481 |
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26500 |
26500 |
26110 |
25727 |
25352 |
24984 |
24624 |
24271 |
23925 |
23586 |
23253 |
22927 |
22608 |
22294 |
21987 |
21685 |
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26750 |
26750 |
26356 |
25970 |
25591 |
25220 |
24857 |
24500 |
24151 |
23808 |
23473 |
23144 |
22821 |
22504 |
22194 |
21890 |
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27000 |
27000 |
26602 |
26212 |
25830 |
25456 |
25089 |
24729 |
24377 |
24031 |
23692 |
23360 |
23034 |
22715 |
22401 |
22094 |
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27250 |
27250 |
26849 |
26455 |
26069 |
25692 |
25321 |
24958 |
24602 |
24253 |
23911 |
23576 |
23247 |
22925 |
22609 |
22299 |
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27500 |
27500 |
27095 |
26698 |
26309 |
25927 |
25554 |
25187 |
24828 |
24476 |
24131 |
23792 |
23461 |
23135 |
22816 |
22503 |
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27750 |
27750 |
27341 |
26940 |
26548 |
26163 |
25786 |
25416 |
25054 |
24698 |
24350 |
24009 |
23674 |
23346 |
23024 |
22708 |
|
28000 |
28000 |
27587 |
27183 |
26787 |
26399 |
26018 |
25645 |
25279 |
24921 |
24570 |
24225 |
23887 |
23556 |
23231 |
22913 |
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28250 |
28250 |
27834 |
27426 |
27026 |
26634 |
26250 |
25874 |
25505 |
25143 |
24789 |
24441 |
24100 |
23766 |
23439 |
23117 |
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28500 |
28500 |
28080 |
27669 |
27265 |
26870 |
26483 |
26103 |
25731 |
25366 |
25008 |
24658 |
24314 |
23977 |
23646 |
23322 |
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28750 |
28750 |
28326 |
27911 |
27504 |
27106 |
26715 |
26332 |
25957 |
25588 |
25228 |
24874 |
24527 |
24187 |
23853 |
23526 |
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29000 |
29000 |
28573 |
28154 |
27744 |
27342 |
26947 |
26561 |
26182 |
25811 |
25447 |
25090 |
24740 |
24397 |
24061 |
23731 |
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29250 |
29250 |
28819 |
28397 |
27983 |
27577 |
27180 |
26790 |
26408 |
26034 |
25666 |
25306 |
24954 |
24608 |
24268 |
23936 |
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29500 |
29500 |
29065 |
28639 |
28222 |
27813 |
27412 |
27019 |
26634 |
26256 |
25886 |
25523 |
25167 |
24818 |
24476 |
24140 |
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For
example, you want to buy a car and negotiate the price to $21,750 with
dealer financing at 1.5%. The current bank interest rate is 6%. If you
pay cash, you should offer $19,085, as that is the present value of that
loan at the current interest rate.
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One reply on “What is a low interest rate worth?”
Let me start by saying I work for a Credit union and up until February was part of their lending department, so I have a bit of insight on this. I think of it this way: they aren’t really lending you money — more like they’re lending you ownership of the car. It costs them less to have the car in your hands than taking up room on their lot AND they are getting the added benefit of that 1.2% (or whatever) in interest you are paying to them annually. It isn’t really Joe’s VW Sales that’s offering you that rate — it’s the Volkswagon Corp (or whatever they call themselves) who is financing your car — you’re buying it from the same people who are financing your loan so there isn’t any actual money changing hands at the time of sale. They’re actually making their money on the car itself, not the loan. A bank or other financial institution has to charge a bit higher rate because they make their money on the interest alone. I hope that all made sense — it’s so clear in my head!